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September 30, 2002

From the New York Times, Amiri Baraka is asked by the New Jersey governor to resign from his newly appointed post as poet laureate.

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Laura's [failed] attempt at a poetry word for the day: elliptical poets. Definitely not in the American Heritage. An article in TheStranger dot com and an interview in Perihelion Magazine referring to other essays about Elliptical Poets were the best I could do on short notice.


posted by Laurable on 9/30/2002 09:17:01 AM
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Ron Silliman also works weekends and on Sunday wrote about Lorine Niedecker on RonSilliman dot blogspot dot com.

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September 28, 2002

A Major Minor: Ezra Pound’s Poetry by Donald Lyons in The New Criterion.

posted by Laurable on 9/28/2002 11:22:46 PM
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An article on Provençal literature from The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001 on Bartleby dot com.

Alba by Ezra Pound fuses of troubadour lyric and Asian haiku into modern alba. Alba means dawn song.

posted by Laurable on 9/28/2002 11:04:38 PM
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Modern Language Association (MLA dot org) produces an NPR sponsored radio show titled What's the Word. The programs about a half an hour. Some of the poetry specific programs are:

Love Poetry, II: Urdu love poetry, gay love poetry, and Provençal love poetry.
The Reader in the Poem: The role of the reader in several different poems.
Sermon Traditions: The writings of John Donne; Puritan sermons; African American sermons.
Poetry in Performance: Ancient traditions and the performance of Homer's poetry; what slam poetry is and why it is attracting poets and new audiences; Robert Pinsky's campaign to revive interest in poetry through performance.
How Do You Read a Poem?: Three scholars read poems and talk about what the poems mean to them and to their students.
Literary Responses to the Civil War: Herman Melville, Walt Whitman, and Lydia Maria Child.
Rereading: Three scholars talk about the experience of seeing new meaning in a familiar literary work; Jorge Luis Borges; Ralph Waldo Emerson; Dante's Divine Comedy.
Love Poetry: Women's love poetry; men's love poetry; Shakespeare's sonnets.
New York City Writers: The ways in which writers have depicted New York City; writers of the Harlem Renaissance; Edith Wharton; Walt Whitman.

Some other (less poetic) programs I found of interest are:

King Arthur: The Morte d'Arthur, Tennyson's Idylls of the King, and Monty Python.
Movie Versions of Hamlet: Versions of the play by Kenneth Branagh and Mel Gibson, Ethan Hawke's postmodern version of the play, and foreign film versions of the play.
On the Road, the American Road: Kerouac's On the Road, Nabokov's Lolita, and the film Thelma and Louise.
Psalms: Origins, translations, and interpretations of the psalms.
Fateful Births: Tristram Shandy, Frankenstein, and The Awakening.
Mothers: Mothers in the works of Mme de Sévigné and Mme de Lafayette; the maternal presence in Hamlet and King Lear; A Raisin in the Sun.
Controversial Writers: Nawal El Saadawi, Ezra Pound, James Joyce.
Classic Detectives: Edgar Allan Poe, Sherlock Holmes, Maigret.
Literature of the Sea: The writings of Melville and Robert Louis Stevenson; Conrad's Lord Jim.
The Bible: Job and Stories Based on the Book of Job: The biblical story; the modern incarnations of the story in the work of Robert Frost and Archibald MacLeish; the importance of the story of Job for lawyers.
Who Done It? Mysteries in the Anglo-American Tradition: The history of the murder mystery tradition; the hard-boiled detective tradition; women mystery writers.

...plus too many more to name.

posted by Laurable on 9/28/2002 10:33:55 PM
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There are palindromes and then there are palindromes. SpinelessBooks dot com presents 2002: A Palindrome Story by Nick Montfort and William Gillespie. They also provide Deep Speed a program to assist in the creation of palindromes.


posted by Laurable on 9/28/2002 10:12:21 PM
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Brian Kim Stefans has a new weblog called Free Space Comix: The Blog on his website Arras dot net.

posted by Laurable on 9/28/2002 09:28:08 PM
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The introduction to Lorine Niedecker: Collected Works by Jenny Penberthy in Jacket Magazine dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/28/2002 09:16:04 PM
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Sharon Olds was on NPR's Fresh Air September 24th, BUT it appears that the audio not available due to rights issues.

posted by Laurable on 9/28/2002 08:01:39 PM
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Tom Raworth has some entertaining doodles over at TomRaworth dot com including; One Morning in 1910, Cocteau and Eliot and Hold the Line.

posted by Laurable on 9/28/2002 05:35:38 PM
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September 27, 2002

An Afternoon with Elizabeth Bishop for The New Yorker Festival.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 10:30:14 PM
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A review of The Women Come and Go by Louis Menand about the love life of T.S. Eliot in The New Yorker.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 10:27:04 PM
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The Double Man: Why Auden is an indispensable poet of our time in The New Yorker.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 10:10:28 PM
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The Sestina Page includes an explanation for the sestina end word pattern.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 02:01:31 PM
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Several pantoums on Miriam Sagan's website. I wouldn't have thought a pantoum could be as short as Hugh Thomas's two stanza This is a Pantoum.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 01:49:53 PM
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Biki's long list of sonnet forms such as Spenserian, Keats, and Pushkin as well as a handy quick reference included at the bottom of the page.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 01:32:20 PM
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Random Notes on John Berryman and The Dream Songs by Mason-West dot com.

Dream Song 1 by John Berryman at Poets dot org (listen). Also Sonnet 117 (Petrarchan).

Many, many Dream Songs at Plagiarist dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 12:44:48 PM
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Five Sonnets by Jim Behrle in TheEastVillage dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 11:04:18 AM
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RealPoetik: a poetry magazine/mailing list run by Sal Salisin.
The Bob Holman page from 1997 and another from 1996 including One Sea. (Poetic Penguins by William L. Boyd from Amazon and BN dot com)

The Daniel M. Nester page from 2000.
The Robert Dana page from 1995.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 10:29:17 AM
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Ron Silliman explains Actualism in today's RonSilliman dot blogspot dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 10:20:07 AM
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Kenneth Koch revisited in The Paris Review.

posted by Laurable on 9/27/2002 09:54:49 AM
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September 26, 2002

Kenneth Koch tribute at the PoetryProject [dot com], Wednesday, October 2.

posted by Laurable on 9/26/2002 05:02:39 PM
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September 25, 2002

This just in! The third chapbook in the Laurable dot com Poetry Press Series will be a spontaneous sonnet written by Levi Asher and myself late last night at the bar of the Bowery Poetry Club while drinking Frank O'Haras.

I have been neglectful for not uploading the second chapbook, Laurable Abecedarian performed September 5th for the Urbana Poetry Slam. I took last place.

posted by Laurable on 9/25/2002 12:10:09 PM
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I Remember poems; a fixed-form created by Joe Brainard in the early 1970s at the Teachers & Writers Collaborative. More I Remember poems created by T&Ws contributors in April of 2000.

My own I Remember...

...winter afternoons
at the Poets House
snug inside the stacks
between years of Poetry
and The Ohio Review.

posted by Laurable on 9/25/2002 11:52:54 AM
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Seven poems from Cold Spring - A Diary by Tom Clark in JacketMagazine dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/25/2002 11:44:40 AM
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Beat Generation Photographs (and NY School and Black Mountain and...) by Fred W. McDarrah Fred at Great Modern Pictures dot com.
Allen Ginsberg, Frank O'Hara and (the blonde) Vincent Warren at the Living Theatre, Nov. 13, 1959.
Frank O'Hara at the Living Theatre, November 2, 1959.
Frank O'Hara in the MOMA Sculpture Garden, January 20, 1960
Diane di Prima at the Gaslight Cafe, June 18, 1959 (enlargement jpg)
Denise Levertov at the Living Theatre, November 13, 1959
Barbara Guest at the old Pennsylvania Station, October 16, 1959.
The Cedar Tavern May 16, 1959.
Larry Rivers on sax, Jazz Gallery, April 24, 1960

posted by Laurable on 9/25/2002 10:51:18 AM
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I have logged this before, but its always worth listening to again; Popeye and William Blake Fight to the Death in Jacket Magazine (listen. Back in 1997, Kenneth Koch and Allen Ginsberg were dueling rhymes, instigated by Ron Padgett, at St Mark's Poetry Project in the East Village.

posted by Laurable on 9/25/2002 10:35:57 AM
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The fall issue of The Cortland Review is out as well the 18th issue of Jacket Magazine featuring Diane di Prima.

posted by Laurable on 9/25/2002 09:53:44 AM
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After a week the weblog is back in business with a looked over log from last year. Old-Fashioned Poetry but a Wild Life in the New York Times, a review of the new Edna St. Vincent Millay biography Savage Beauty.

posted by Laurable on 9/25/2002 09:51:39 AM
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September 18, 2002

Controversial Statue Gets The Boot

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Ron Silliman writes a few things about the entanglements of poetry and music on RonSilliman dot blogspot dot com.

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September 17, 2002

June 27, Def Poets Society in Slate dot com. Can Russell Simmons make poetry cool? Def Poetry on HBO.

posted by Laurable on 9/17/2002 10:07:25 AM
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George Bush, Poet by June Thomas in Slate Magazine. The President may not know it, or show it. But he is a linguistic archaeologist as well as a poet. This was quoted from The Times (UK) article titled Bush has not stiffed the English language, but he may have crawfished around it.

posted by Laurable on 9/17/2002 09:54:35 AM
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Poetry and Sept. 11: A Guided Anthology by Robert Pinsky in Slate Magazine with the poems; Souvenir of the Ancient World by Carlos Drummond de Andrade (trans. Mark Strand), The House on the Hill by Edwin Arlington Robinson, Curse by Frank Bidart, September 11 by Teresa Cader, To Licinius by Horace (trans. David Ferry)

posted by Laurable on 9/17/2002 09:46:40 AM
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September 16, 2002

On September 5th, Charles Simic was the guest on KCRW's Bookworm. Excerpts from Night Picnic: Poems are included.

Heroic Moment and Euphemia Gray's Pubis by Charles Simic from The Prose Poem: An International Journal / Web Issue V.

posted by Laurable on 9/16/2002 04:17:12 PM
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The Atlantic Monthly's Flashback: The Byron Complex

posted by Laurable on 9/16/2002 04:11:03 PM
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Loss of [The Ohio} Review Bugs Poet, a letter in the University of Ohio alumni magazine responding to A Final Review, an article about the retirement of The Ohio Review editor/co-founder Wayne Dodd and the final issue of The Ohio Review.

posted by Laurable on 9/16/2002 12:58:27 PM
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The Genealogy of Postmodernism: Contemporary American Poetry by Albert Gelpi in The Southern Review but posted on University of Pennsylvania's English 88 site.


posted by Laurable on 9/16/2002 12:42:01 PM
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I=N=C=O=H=E=R=E=N=T: How Contemporary American Poets are Denaturing the Poem, Part II by columnist Joan Houlihan of The Boston Comment for WebDelSol dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/16/2002 11:21:45 AM
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The invention of the sestina is credited to Arnaut Daniel who used the sestina to mock the elaborate forms of his fellow troubadours. It consists of six stanzas of six lines and a final triplet, all stanzas having the same six words at the line-ends in six different sequences: abcdef, faebdc, cfdabe, ecbfad, deacfb, bdfeca. The concluding stanza, or envoi, is composed of three lines using the six of the repeated words.


Sestina by Dante
Ye Goatherd Gods by Sir Philip Sidney
Sestina of the Tramp-Royal by Rudyard Kipling
Sestina by Elizabeth Bishop
Sestina: Altaforte by Ezra Pound
Sestina by David Lehman
Sestina: Here In Katmandu by Donald Justice
Sestina by James Cummins (English at bottom of the page)
All-American Sestina by Florence Cassen Mayers in The Atlantic Monthly utilizes the number scheme words themselves (one, two, three) at the beginning of her lines and leaving out the end words completely.

posted by Laurable on 9/16/2002 09:26:13 AM
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September 13, 2002

Robert Bly weights in on the term deep image in an interview from Great Writers on the Internet.

posted by Laurable on 9/13/2002 07:10:14 PM
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Three poems, A Dry Death, This is the Kind of Poem I'm Done Writing, or, a Small Pang on Spring, and O Great Slacker by Olena Kalytiak Davis in CanWeHaveOurBallBack dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/13/2002 06:48:20 PM
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The Stony Brook and Alpine by George Oppen in FlashPointMag dot com. These each are a jpg of an unpublished typescript intended for a five page manuscript to be published by Perishable Press.

posted by Laurable on 9/13/2002 02:08:34 PM
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Who Shall Doubt by George Oppen at Poets dot org with a double parenthetical in the middle of the poem.

and

Clarity, clarity, surely clarity is the
Most beautiful thing in the world,
A limited, limiting clarity
I have not and never did have any
Motive of poetry
But to achieve clarity.


from Bartleby dot com and Simpson’s Contemporary Quotations.

posted by Laurable on 9/13/2002 10:37:52 AM
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Does asking a question encourage people to post their comments in the notation function?

posted by Laurable on 9/13/2002 10:33:09 AM
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The Kendall Clark Sub-Anthology of Poetry (sub of The Ftrain Anthology of Poetry, 2002) on Ftrain dot com. Kendall, I understand.

posted by Laurable on 9/13/2002 10:21:29 AM
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September 12, 2002

An interview with John Ashbery in The Harvard Advocate.

posted by Laurable on 9/12/2002 04:21:38 PM
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Laura's poetry word for the day: poetndidntknowitness from pseudodictionary dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/12/2002 03:05:39 PM
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Remember to keep an eye on Paul Ford over at FTrain dot com. Lots of good poems lately: John Donne, Amiri Baraka, Joseph Brodsky, Alan Dugan and Robert Penn Warren. Thank you Paul.

posted by Laurable on 9/12/2002 02:54:38 PM
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Firesign Theatre explained by Bob Holman on Poetry dot About dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/12/2002 02:34:37 PM
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While The Factory School Digital Audio Archive has taken down their Lorine Niedecker audio (the only one I have ever smelled a whiff of), SUNY Buffalo's Electronic Poetry Center has the same recording hosted on their Niedecker author page.

posted by Laurable on 9/12/2002 02:06:10 PM
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Lorine Niedecker: Poems From The Condensery - an essay by Brett Axel.

posted by Laurable on 9/12/2002 12:51:19 AM
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A reading and discussion by Louis Zukofsky on his work from The Factory School Digital Audio Archive (listen).

posted by Laurable on 9/12/2002 12:39:51 AM
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September 11, 2002

Harold Bloom is assembling a massive anthology titled The Best Poems in the English Language, from Weekend Edition Sunday's (listen) summer reading series, September 1st.

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 11:24:45 PM
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The Night Joe Louis Went 21-0 by Dropping Tami Mauriello by William Kloefkorn (Nebraska poet) in The Missouri Review.

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 11:11:30 PM
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Angel Tongue, Burning Edgar Po, Looking For Trouble, The Tunneling, Miss X and Madge Put On Your Tea Kettle by Charles Simic in The Missouri Review.

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 11:04:23 PM
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On July 29, Diane Wakoski, poet in residence at Michigan State University, reads selections from her book length poem Greed (on greed in poetry) during NPR's Talk of the Nation (listen start at 43:28).

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 10:39:21 PM
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On August 11, NPR's Weekend Edition Sunday's (listen) summer reading series featured Poet Laureate Billy Collins.

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 10:30:22 PM
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On August 19th, the U.S. Postal Service issued a stamp in honor of Ogden Nash's birthday.

NPR's Morning Edition (listen) spoke with Nash's daughter, Linell Nash. Later on the 23rd of August, Morning Edition (listen) listeners contributed their own Nash-like poems about the stamp.

Last month I also logged some things on Nash.

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 10:20:50 PM
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Back on August 19th, NPR's Fresh Air (listen) re-aired a program with the painter Larry Rivers (a painter among poets) originally broadcast in October of 1992.

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 09:53:46 PM
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Robin Blaser gives a series of lectures on Charles Olson delivered at SUNY Buffalo, but hosted at The Factory School Digital Audio Archive (listen Part 1).

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 09:33:46 PM
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On August 27th, NPR's Morning Edition (listen), Lucille Clifton talks about her series of poems, September Suite, included in the anthology called September 11, 2001 - American Writers Respond.

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 08:30:19 PM
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On September 8th, Robert Pinsky discussed and read his poem 9/11 (text in The Washington Post) on NPR's Weekend Edition Sunday (listen)

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 08:25:54 PM
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Performance poet and professor of English Literature at The New School for Social Research Sekou Sundiata talks with Terry Gross on today's Fresh Air (listen)

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 08:19:59 PM
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Brooklyn poet Aaron Balkan collected poems written by New Yorkers in response to September 11th, on NPR's Morning Edition (listen).

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 08:11:41 PM
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September 5, Live from Prairie Lights (listen) on WSUI in Iowa City had a tribute to the poet Jane Cooper featuring poets Marvin Bell, James McKean, Claire Rossini and Jan Weissmiller.

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 07:56:11 PM
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Flush by Cate Marvin was the audio in last weeks Slate Magazine (listen).

Last April, Cate Marvin read on Live from Prairie Lights (listen).

posted by Laurable on 9/11/2002 07:41:56 PM
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September 9, 2002

TheConnection [dot org] discusses how our language has changed since September 11th on today's show, The 9-11 Lexicon.

Linguist Geoff Nunberg also considers the effect of Sept. 11 on language on NPR's Fresh Air (listen).

posted by Laurable on 9/09/2002 03:47:32 PM
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Language Poetry: Dissident Practices and the Makings of a Movement by Eleana Kim on R e a d m e.

posted by Laurable on 9/09/2002 11:19:43 AM
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Galway Kinnell is interviewed by Alice Quinn in this week's New Yorker (online only). Also included is his elegy When the Towers Fell.

I recommend listening to After Making Love We Hear Footsteps at Poets dot org, Fooling with Words (PBS) and People's Poetry Gathering. Note the slight text variations in the last third of the poem with the first two recordings.

posted by Laurable on 9/09/2002 10:39:34 AM
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I will just sit here and quietly blush this morning. Thank you kindly Ron.

posted by Laurable on 9/09/2002 09:42:37 AM
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September 6, 2002

Bataan Faigao's faculty page at the Naropa Institute.

Streets available in RealAudio at Wendy Woo dot com

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 08:36:27 PM
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The New Yorker has a great cover this week.
[Postscript 8/9: I was referring to the botanical beauty from last week. Unfortunately, I cannot find an archive image of the cover.]

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 08:21:36 PM
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And remember to buy Strega for The Frank O'Hara tomorrow because you can't buy it on Sunday!

I just found another drink made with Strega called a San Remo Cocktail.

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 06:27:25 PM
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Poem (Khrushchev is coming on the right day!) by Frank O'Hara

and for luckydave...

by Edna St. Vincent Millay
I Shall Forget You Presently (Shakespearean sonnet), and
What Lips My Lips have Kissed, and Where, and Why (Petrarchan sonnet), and
a Millay sonnet, I Will put Chaos into Fourteen Lines, about the sonnet

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 05:14:53 PM
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Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
~The Second Coming by W. B. Yeats

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 05:06:55 PM
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Does anyone know about the connection between Ezra Pound's and W. B. Yeats's reading styles? Listen to The Lake Isle of Innisfree and then listen to Canto I.

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 02:48:22 PM
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Laura's (sort of) poetry word for the day: heteronyms.

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 01:52:47 PM
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Pessoa's Trunk attempts to apply the tools of the web to the appreciation of Pessoa's writing and life and succeeds. Be sure to check out Autopsicografia: Thirteen-plus ways of looking at one of Pessoa's most personal poems. This page demonstrates the heart of my frustration with translation.

But wait! Here are four Pessoa poems that he wrote in English including a very saucy sonnet (A Sonnet Bearing The Imprimatur Of The Inquisitor-General And Other People Of Distinction And Decency).

Bob Holman on Pessoa in poetry dot About dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 01:36:45 PM
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Paul Lake claims that science debunks free verse in his essay The Shape of Poetry at the Contemporary Poetry Review.

And always good to review: Ezra Pound's A Retrospect.

And while we are pounding away at this topic, listen to Robert Duncan's lecture on Ezra Pound from the FactorySchool's Digital Audio Archive.
Here I am fifty, I've been shacked up with this book for thirty three years. Pound has been shacked up writing it since 1910. and I read Finnegan the way people eat LSD.

Duncan talks about Pound's recordings, does his best Pound impression and then answers how to find the rhythm in a poem (and remember we are in free verse territory). (listen start 21:38) ...certainly in the modern poem, the role of the reader is to find the elegant solution. If you do not find the music - you have not found the elegant solution.

Poetry is not a competition about being a good guy and one thing that can wreck a poem is trying to write a poem is trying to write a poem so people will think pretty good, good feeling and loving and so forth. That is not what happens in poetry. What we get out of poetry is – what we most value out of poetry is the terrific insight into something we almost don’t dare say about ourselves... (start 31:16)'
Pound as a poet had broken with a longer period in poetry that had become increasingly terrified of the poem. A case I think you all know in English letters is Coleridge. He became literally terrified.

...finally you got to a man that all his contemporaries could see didn't have to be terrified of poetry -- that was Tennyson. He had domesticated poetry. And possibly a great poet, but he had domesticated it. And that century was so tied up about Whitman, because Whitman did bad things like use French words that you know must be pronounced the way Americans do.

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 12:12:40 PM
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I did log this before, but I want to once again. A survey from The North American Centre for Interdisciplinary Poetics:

Language Poetry is to Projective Verse:
What Stalin was to Hitler
What the Cross was to St. John
What boils were to Job
What the Light Brigade was to Tennyson.

Vote and see the results here.

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 11:47:04 AM
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A review of David Wojahn's Essays on Contemporary Poetry in RainTaxi dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/06/2002 11:24:05 AM
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September 4, 2002

Michael McClure talks with Jack Foley about Projective Verse in The Alsop Review.

posted by Laurable on 9/04/2002 05:02:00 PM
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Sleeping with the Dictionary by Harryette Mullen at The University of California Press. Also, her Poets on Poetry Chat at The Teachers & Writers Collaborative. An mp3 of Dim Lady and Variation on a Theme Park is also included for your listening pleasure.

posted by Laurable on 9/04/2002 02:28:56 PM
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While I don't agree with his or her source code, I did enjoy these musings on James Wight at this undisclosed AT&T Broadband site.

posted by Laurable on 9/04/2002 02:06:39 PM
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Attention! Ron Silliman now has a Blog at RonSilliman dot blogspot dot com.

posted by Laurable on 9/04/2002 02:02:14 PM
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September 2, 2002

Poetic Experiments from Charles Bernstein on SUNY Buffalo's Electronic Poetry Center.

posted by Laurable on 9/02/2002 01:44:19 PM
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A review of Jennifer Michael Hecht's The Next Ancient World, Tupelo Press, 2001 in Slope [dot org] 15.

posted by Laurable on 9/02/2002 01:20:12 PM
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September 1, 2002

Laurable dot com Poetry Press is now officially running with their first publication A Laurable One-Word Slam: A Poem now available for downloading. Currently in Microsoft Word 2000 format with PDF format coming shortly.

posted by Laurable on 9/01/2002 09:18:52 PM
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luckydave's publishing word for the day: saddle-stitched from About dot com's Desktop Publishing glossary.

posted by Laurable on 9/01/2002 09:16:37 PM
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